The movie doesn't mean nothing in the big sense. It's not something that does anything really negative to them. But it did change my experience of self-consciousness. I think they're hardwired for what we want in our lives. And as you get older, you find yourself thinking about things and doing things that people don't like. You go into these thoughts and feel sad or horrible. They do make you sad.

What have you learned from working with pain over the years?
